November 9, 2015

"The fourth Republican presidential debate will be Tuesday, November 10th, live from the Milwaukee Theatre in Milwaukee, Wisconsin."

"The venue has a loaded history: On October 14, 1912, candidate Teddy Roosevelt was shot in the chest by an assassin outside of a Milwaukee hotel. Instead of heading to the hospital, he continued to the Milwaukee Auditorium (now the Milwaukee Theatre) to deliver a 90-minute campaign speech. In front of a horrified audience and with the bullet lodged in his rib, he pulled out a bloodied 50-page speech with bullet holes in it from his coat pocket and declared, 'It takes more than that to kill a bull moose.'"

From "Everything you need to know about Tuesday's Republican debates."

I didn't even know there was already another Republican debate about to happen. After that, we'll have to wait a whole other month and 5 days before we get to see the guys and 1 woman all standing in the same place. We'll be seeing them every damned day, but we'll have to wait for another full array of lined-up lecterns.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

They don't make them like Teddy (or his son; BG Roosevelt) anymore.

We call him the Good Roosevelt :)

Roughcoat said...

Funny thing is, TR was known as a "Progressive." But that word had a different meaning from the one it has today, when it has morphed into a weasel word-euphemism for "leftist."

elcee said...

I'll repeat the suggestion I made earlier:

The format I suggest for candidate debates is adapting a Congressional hearing model, the kind broadcast on CSPAN.

Each GOP candidate takes a turn in front of a panel made up only of the other GOP candidates who act as interlocutors.

The GOP candidate ‘on the stand’ can give an opening and closing statement, but otherwise the entire period is spent responding to examination by the other GOP candidates.

Whether they want to be adversarial, collaborative, wonkish, petty, etc, with each other is up to them, understanding that the interlocutor is being judged by viewers, too, and every interlocutor will take his or her turn 'on the stand'.

All the candidates agree beforehand on a neutral non-candidate moderator who doesn’t get involved with substance, but simply manages the format and ground rules like a chair for a hearing.

If a particular candidate emphasized a particular issue like immigration in his campaign, he would have his turn challenging the record and position of every other candidate on that issue while they’re ‘on the stand’. The other candidates can change or broaden the agenda with their interrogatories in the same way.

A common website can be set up for the candidates to upload additional material relevant to subject matter raised in the debates, like reports are supplied at Congressional hearings. In fact, the candidate ‘on the stand’ can have his or her staff ready to upload the material in real-time during the debates.

Kevin said...

Can't wait for the next installment of the Democrats Memory Care field trip aka debate...

madAsHell said...

I didn't even know there was already another Republican debate about to happen.

My mother doesn't receive the Fox Business News channel. Last week, she had me confirm that she could stream it from the internet.

She's fired up!!

Alex said...

Teddy Roosevelt would roll in his grave if he knew about our total lack of antitrust enforcement these days. He was Mr. Trustbuster! He brought John D Rockefeller to size!

richard mcenroe said...

Yeah, the Rockefellers barely owned NY for the next 50 years!

richard mcenroe said...

Roughcoat, why, back then it was progressive to shoot brown people in Asia!

John henry said...

Roughcoat said...
Funny thing is, TR was known as a "Progressive." But that word had a different meaning from the one it has today, when it has morphed into a weasel word-euphemism for "leftist."

Progressive is really just an American way of saying Fascist (note the capital F) as in the Italian Fascist party program. Everything in the state, nothing outside of the state, everything for the state.

If you don't believe me, read Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism" (1935 or so) which explains what Fascism is in terms accessible to the regular reader. Not long, around 100 pages, IIRC. Readily available on line for free or via Kindle for $2-3.

Then tell me the difference between progressivism and Fascism.

Bueller? Bueller?

Note that I am not talking of small f fascism. As George Orwell noted back in the 40s, it had become even then a meaningless epithet to throw at anyone whose politics you disagreed with.

John henry said...

Alex said...
Teddy Roosevelt would roll in his grave if he knew about our total lack of antitrust enforcement these days. He was Mr. Trustbuster! He brought John D Rockefeller to size!

And your problem with Standard Oil/JDR is what, exactly? Do you even know what they did beyond what you get in the 2 minute hate?

Do you know that a year or two after the breakup, the remnant Standard Oil was even bigger than the combined SO before the breakup?

You probably also know that unions, which are basically the same monopoly as SO were also illegal under Teedy's antitrust laws.

Go Teedy.

John Henry

mikee said...

We'll have to see the Republicans every damn day, grilled by reporters on the reporters' misreading of autobiographies, but the more days we don't see Hillary the less unpopular she will be. Odd how that works.

Humperdink said...

I am surprised, dear hostess, that you linked to an article by Politico. Politico backpedaled faster than the Iraqi army on their Carson hit piece.

ganderson said...

Rockefeller made more money out of the breakup of Standard Oil than he did building the company. The Grateful Dead played a great show at the Milwaukee Auditorium in February 1978.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I need to know who is gonna win, and I need to know now, as viewed by my bookie's certain measures which he considers IP and won't divulge, which, yeah yeah I know makes this a little more bootstrap buckin' up needin' than I would have liked, so I can eat and keep the heat on and feed my dog 'n junk.