January 2, 2012

"The Many Accidents That Produced Romney's 'Inevitable' Nomination."

That's a typical desperate article title by one of the many panicking political reporters who are getting slapped in the face with the reality that the primary season that was supposed to be only just beginning is damned near over. What will they do with their stored up vats of ink and sharpened quills?

Here's an idea: Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Kidding!

89 comments:

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

What will they do with their stored up vats of negative Republican reportage and their transparently biased pro-democrat hackiness?

ricpic said...

Article calls Bachmann a hyper-extremist and doesn't even mention Santorum. This being TNR I think the writer kinda wants Romney as Obama's opponent, ergo Romney's inevitability. A lot can still overturn that outcome.

Rose said...

Before a single vote has been cast.

I don't get to vote until June - I'd like to still have some choices. If I were voting right now it would be for Gingrich, who knows what makes Washington tic, and knows how to make it work.

Then again, this may be a real upset year, there may be a very wild and exhilarating ride ahead.

If not, we'll have to grit our teeth and make sure we oust the Pelosi/Reid/pass it to find out what's in it Democrats from the Senate, and take a real stand for fiscal sanity, cutting spending and living within our means.

Trouble is, we need more than that. We need a leader who can offer stability on the international front, and one who can stand up to the rising menace. The fate of the world is at stake.

Terry said...

I think that it is time for the media to push the story that, if nominated, Romney will choose Christine O'Donnell as his running mate.
Questions about this are being raised!

Bob Ellison said...

The ReThuglicans can't possibly nominate a non-exploding candidate like Romney! They're too stupid to do that! Oh, my, the room is spinning...

John henry said...

Shorter Romney:

"I can't believe that I am losing to this guy" (Paul)


WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! It is my turn. Daddy make that bad man go away.

John Henry

Toad Trend said...

"Here's an idea: Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Kidding!"

Ann, would you like to see another term by the current president? If not/so, why?

wv - bactomen

They must be german.

John henry said...

Terry,

You really think that if by some chance Romney is nominated he should choose that fat thespian as his VP?

Oh, wait...

I thought you meant Rosie O'Donnell.

John Henry

edutcher said...

With 40% of the IA vote still undecided, Milton's evitability is still up for grabs.

And what Rose said.

There should be one primary in May or early June. This nonsense, especially in NH, is for the birds.

Ann Althouse said...

"Ann, would you like to see another term by the current president? If not/so, why?"

Sorry, I'm not really a political blogger.

madAsHell said...

Sorry, I'm not really a political blogger.

...but I need someone to give me my opinion!

All kidding aside, I'd probably stop reading here if you wrote anything like the TNR article.

Pastafarian said...

Althouse, I don't see where you're getting this inevitability-of-Romney stuff.

Gingrich has fallen off lately, but only because support has been siphoned off by Santorum -- not by Romney, who has, by your own observation, only ever drawn something like 25% support.

(And probably half of this support is from Democrats, like you, who won't vote for the Republican nominee anyway -- unless he's a Democrat like Romney.)

Let's see how this thing plays out with actual votes before anointing anyone.

MikeR said...

Someone sent me this link. Loved it.


President Obama’s Accomplishments. Amazing list; number 1 was my favorite: "Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending." Ah – that’ll do it for sure.
President Obama's Accomplishments.
Many of the others, my first thought was, Wait, that isn’t true!? For instance, “The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out.” Others, I didn’t see why anyone would term them “accomplishments”: “$789 billion economic stimulus plan”.

Unknown said...

I agree that they should go back to, or try in the first place, to talk about issues. I am darn sick of listening to endless discussions of polls and surges and who's taking votes from whom. It's like a 6-month-long baseball game. It's a primary! Let it all shake out.

Now, it's pretty well shaken. In first, Romney has toughened up a little. Let's talk about the issues, even if they hurt The One, who is not so enchanting any more.

Take it to him, Mitt! No one else will.

Rick said...

They will have plenty to write about, including:
the supposedly improving economy, as shown by the supposedly declining unemployment number; the war with Iran; and the humanitarian war with Syria.

rcommal said...

I tend to agree with your overall characterization of the article, Althouse, despite finding myself nodding at, especially and emphatically, #1 and, to a lesser extent, #3.

I couldn't get my act together earlier enough to zip out to see Romney early this morning, but will probably make it to a Paul (+Paul, since Rand is also in town) event at 1 p.m. and one of Gingrich's this evening. It'll be interesting to "gauge the atmosphere" and compare and contrast them.

rcommal said...

I'm not getting why people think Althouse "lives" Romney. What am I missing?

rcommal said...

Sorry: "loves," not "lives"

The Crack Emcee said...

Ann Althouse,

Sorry, I'm not really a political blogger.

Yeah, you must be new:

Our Ann's Out Of The Water (But In The Tank)

Automatic_Wing said...

Oh yeah, if only Tim Pawlenty had stayed in the race, everything would be totally different! Riiiight...

TPaw sure does figure into a lot of political counterfactuals for a guy with zero charisma and no identifiable ideological niche.

_Jim said...

I wonder if My Dad, in his 80's now, is going to vote Obama again. On a trip to see him (further up north that I am, like Michigan) I saw the Obama/Biden sign in the garage ...

I'm not paying taxes this year, or probably the next, having earned over the 'tax table' amount the previous couple of years (first time ever!) but living off the bank account now while doing some writing, blogging and product development on my own dime.

ABBO here. (Any Body But ...)

_Jim

Chuck66 said...

"TPaw sure does figure into a lot of political counterfactuals for a guy with zero charisma and no identifiable ideological niche."

Which is why he would be good. Instead of some one alittle goofy who loves the media, or the media loves to give attention to, we get someone who would be closer to a CEO than a self-centered politician.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

Every four years we hear the "far right" dominates the Republican primaries.

And every four years the "far right" candidate loses.

And every four years we have explanations as to why it didn't happen. None of them include the possiblity that the "far right" doesn't really dominate the primaries.

But, four years from now - unless Romney is elected - we'll hear the same thing.

I should have gone to journalism school. Apparently you can do anything and not be held accountable.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Seriously....I don't get this fixation on Iowa.

First of all it is a "caucus" which means diddly squat when it comes to real voting. The caucus process makes zero sense. The winner is based on who can round up the largest amount of fanatic supporters amongst a small group of fanatic supporters. Normal people just stay home.

Secondly a caucus is just a cooler way to cheat. Just remember the intimidation and cheating tactics that the Obamabots used to oust Hillary, who really should have been the Dem candidate.

And .....really.....Iowa?? Who cares what the people in Iowa think about the candidates. There are 49 other States with more electoral votes. Iowa has not been 'representative' of the pulse of the American people since the Kaiser was a popular car.

What a freaking waste of time, energy and who cares!!!

Getting high centered on nothing and just another way for the MSM to manipulate the process and eliminate the candidates so we have to vote for who THEY want to run against their favorite boy toy...Obama.

Paco Wové said...

"I'm not getting why people think Althouse "loves" Romney. What am I missing?"

Ummm,,, that the people saying that are hecklers, trolls, and/or brainless partisans?

Paco Wové said...

"And every four years the "far right" candidate loses."

If Romney becomes the Rep. nominee, he will quickly undergo a mysterious transformation into a rabid drooling snake-handling Jesus-hallucinating troglodyte reactionary with latent polygamist tendencies, at least as far as the national press will be concerned.

Joe Schmoe said...

It's the New Republic. All they know how to do is write against the grain. This doesn't give them much to be contrarian about.

To me the big GOP story line is how most of the talent sat this one out. Mel Daniels and Mike Pence took a pass, and at least Mel had more con street cred than Mitt. Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and other young guns thought it wasn't the right time for them yet. Which I agree. The presidency requires someone seasoned. These 40-something year-old presidents suck as they just don't have enough life experience yet to distinguish between how things are supposed to get done versus how they actually are done.

So much to our dismay this has become a bridge race to 2016, with Mitt becoming the default choice for interim coach because our other more favored candidates took themselves out of the running.

rcommal said...

DBQ:

You know, I happen to agree with you that the Iowa Caucuses get a disproportionate amount of attention from the media, that Iowa is not a bellwether state and that what happens here should not be a showstopper for candidates, most especially this year.

However, as for this:

Normal people just stay home.

F*** you. My neighbors and I are are every bit as normal as you are, DBQ, but quite a bit less arrogant, cocksure and, generally speaking, unpleasantly dismissive of everyone and everything with which they disagree than you are.

Also, there are many caucuses held around this state, and you have exactly zilch, zippo evidence that cheating will be involved in any, much less all, of them. (In 2008, there were problems in Texas, but I do NOT recall there being any in Iowa, which is typically a clean-election state, I'll give that to this state.)

So go piss up a tree, girlfiend. That, or get off your high horse.

Andy said...

In order to have a primary, there need to be at least two non-joke candidates.

It is an exercise for the Republicans to determine why they could all manage to field one credible candidate.

I'm guessing people around these parts will be able to maintain the fiction that they are actually having a primary for maybe another week, and then they will realize how silly they look pretending that Paul or Santorum or Gingrich or Perry stands even the remotest chance.

I mean, I understand an incumbent like W or Obama getting the nomination without being challenged, but Romneybot? It's just weird.

Charlie Martin said...

Here's an idea: Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Who says you don't have a sense of humor?

I'm Full of Soup said...

If Romney does get the nomination, the MSM will be telling us next that Romney has such a big money advantage against poor, wittle Prez Obama.

Charlie Martin said...

But, four years from now - unless Romney is elected - we'll hear the same thing.

And if Romney is elected, we'll hear that Romney is "far right".

Actually, that'll start 20 minutes after Romney is nominated.

Palladian said...

I wonder if any grown men in iowa wear their hat crooked?

Joe Schmoe said...

I mean, I understand an incumbent like W or Obama getting the nomination without being challenged, but Romneybot? It's just weird.

Andy, that's the first thing you've said that I agree with. My only addition would be to say that there have been challenges, but they've been pretty lilliputian to date. Like pea shooters against a tank.

deborah said...

"It's just weird."

Thanks for sharing.

Joe Schmoe said...

Well, let me revise that. Newt brought some firepower, but the Republican establishment savaged him so thoroughly and quickly that he didn't stand a chance against a mutinous retinue of politicians and press folk.

Bruce Hayden said...

In order to have a primary, there need to be at least two non-joke candidates.

It is an exercise for the Republicans to determine why they could all manage to field one credible candidate
.

Keep in mind where the Dems were four years ago - one candidate was a recently elected back bencher who voted present whenever he bothered to attend, and who had never held an actual job in his life, and the other another Senator who had risen to power through her marriage and trailed three decades of corruption behind her, including trading Presidential pardons for campaign contributions. In short, the most liberal and least attentive Senator against one of the most corrupt. Neither having much legislative experience nor any executive experience whatsoever. So, the (possibly, slightly) less corrupt and less experienced candidate won, with race trumping sex that time.

That is what you have to keep in mind - that most of the Republican candidates have more relevant experience than did either of the Democrats running last time.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Sorry, I'm not really a political blogger.

Thank the good lord.

Bruce Hayden said...

If Romney does get the nomination, the MSM will be telling us next that Romney has such a big money advantage against poor, wittle Prez Obama.

Which is why they will continue to turn their gaze away from Obama's campaign having turned off credit card verification - again. Never mind that much of Obama's campaign advantage last time around came from this ploy for raising illegal contributions - Disney characters, entire football team rosters, etc.

SteveR said...

Iowa 2012: 1. people with a simple and unrealistic view-Paul, 2. people with a social agenda and/or listening to the media-Santorum, 3. people who want to get rid of Obama-Romney and 4. wake up! you really aren't decided?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

I wonder if any grown men in iowa wear their hat crooked?

I love how Palladian maneuvers the new commenting policy while remaining true to his commenting vision.

My proverbial straight hat is off to you sir.

rcommal said...

Absolutely PACKED house here. Rand Paul speaking now. Personally, I'm more impressed with him than his dad.

james conrad said...

Seriously....I don't get this fixation on Iowa.

Well, Iowa serves an important role in my view. First off, its small, which means lesser known candidates can be heard, media buys in NY or CA are very expensive by comparison. Then there is the matter of winnowing the field, some have already gone and only 3 or 4 will likely carry on after Iowa. Also, in Iowa, candidates are forced to meet the voters in person which i think is a good thing. All in All, i have enjoyed the hell out of the political drama that has played out this past year in Iowa

paul a'barge said...

Hah ha.

TNR blows chunks.

rcommal said...

There are a few young people (20s) here, but far and away most look to be 40 and up.

BJM said...

Here's an idea: Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Cossetted lapdogs do not bite the master's hand.

rcommal said...

Very enthusiastic SRO crowd.** Also a lot of intent listeners. Several average people (not reporters) taking notes.

*The only reason I, a short gal, can see, having arrived late, is because I smiled sweetly and picked my way through the the crowd and nonchalantly installed with the press. Some frowns from a few if them, but I don't care. Used to reporters in event mode.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Is it true that Obama has not submitted a budget to the congress while he has been president?

I think I heard Rush say that.

If true.. then it is my opinion we should have a constitutional convention to maybe put it in.

If true that Obama has not submitted a budget to the congress.. I consider it a massive failure.

Did Bush fail to submit budgets?

Maybe it a new trend.

Maybe I'm out of touch.. or not hip.

james conrad said...

Is it true that Obama has not submitted a budget to the congress while he has been president?

Thats not true, Obama submitted a budget last year (hes required by law) but it was so lame it failed in the Senate 97-0. The senate has not had a budget for almost 3 years now (also required by law)

deborah said...

reader, cool to have you reporting live. What kind of phone are you on? Can you take a vid and post it (later)?

BJM said...

@Bruce Hayden

That is what you have to keep in mind - that most of the Republican candidates have more relevant experience than did either of the Democrats running last time.

Sorry Bruce, but that makes far too much sense to be operative. We're now down to Republicans are either Granny murderers, religious zealots or buzz killing poopyheads...not reason.

Reason left the building in 2008.

Paddy O said...

Occupy Rose Parade was apparently a bust.

We were at the parade, and no sign of them after the parade ended, they may have come by significantly afterwards but we waited 10 minutes or so and it was just the normal crowd walking in the street, on the way back home.

Carnifex said...

I'm calling bullshit on the professor.

Okay professor, since you're NOT a political blog, tell us your opinion on NDAA just signed by the president this weekend. Is it constitutional?

Tell us where in the constitution the government can force us to buy a service from another private party.

Tell us your opinion on the president having an American citizen "executed" by use of a missile while in another country, wihtout a trial, when he was no obvious threat to anyone at that time.

Tell us your opinion on the government interfering with Boeing's ability to build and hire workers in whatever state they chose.

Tell us your opinion on the president undercutting the investors and stockholders of GM in favor of unions.

Tell us professor in a legal sense, where did the government get the ability to abridge personal property rights, private contracts, the rights of citizens as GUARANTEED by the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights?

Or maybe you prefer a dictatorship, as long as the dictator belongs to YOUR party?

Oh, its okay. You were just kidding.

Alex said...

Or maybe you prefer a dictatorship, as long as the dictator belongs to YOUR party?

Ok now you've gone too far asshat.

Freeman Hunt said...

There are a few young people (20s) here, but far and away most look to be 40 and up.

Heh. I initially missed the context for this and thought this was a statement about the Althouse blog.

Paddy O said...

Update. Apparently the Occupy folks walked 1.5 miles before veering off (which would have been just before they got to us).

Lots of media attention and couldn't make it all the way. Typical Occupy.

Unknown said...

BTW rcommal, the on-the-scene reporting is appreciated.

BJM said...

@Carnifex

Tell us professor in a legal sense, where did the government get the ability to abridge personal property rights, private contracts, the rights of citizens as GUARANTEED by the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights?

Well, of course, I can't speak for Althouse, but maybe it's because Obama is so damned cool?

Otherwise it beats the hell out of me too.

rcommal said...

Freeman: LOL. I'm not really sure about the demographics here at Althouse, though over the years I've developed the impression that it skews quite a bit older than what I thought in the early years.

---

While I personally do not plan to caucus for Paul, I did stop by the meeting Paul staff held afterward about the caucuses themselves. There, too, it looked to be a collection of pretty typical Iowans, much like I'd see at any number of [non-political] meetings or events in Iowa--and once again, it did not skew very young at all, nor particularly old (in the sense of retired). There was also a pretty decent mix of males and females (though, to be sure, more of the former than latter), and there was some mix of ethnicities as well.

Peter Hoh said...

Could we design a process that let some other state go first? Maybe, but now is not the time for that discussion.

This is the nominating process we have, and Iowa is doing its job as a low-cost testing ground.

On paper, Perry looked like a formidable candidate. If the nomination were decided by national television ads and scripted appearances, Perry might still be in the hunt.

Yes, there are quirks to the caucus process. The system can be gamed -- mostly by knowing the rules and having people in place to take advantage of the rules -- but I don't think there's been evidence of cheating.

Now the Ames Straw Poll, that's a different story.

Bob Loblaw said...

Here's an idea: Investigative reporting into the massive failures of the Obama administration.

Bah. I would be happy if they gave Obama's past the same scrutiny as that of, say, Rick Perry or Ron Paul. I mean, the man is running for president again, so maybe they could do the job they didn't do the first time around.

BJM said...

@Rick

They will have plenty to write about, including:
the supposedly improving economy, as shown by the supposedly declining unemployment number; the surrender to the Taliban in Afghanistan, the war with Iran; and the humanitarian war with Syria.


FIFY.

knox said...

Absolutely PACKED house here. Rand Paul speaking now. Personally, I'm more impressed with him than his dad.

I like Rand Paul. I have always wished he had run instead of his Pa.

knox said...

And before anyone brings up his fake hair, let me just say that Joe Biden's is at least as bad!

SteveR said...

Hi Knox!

rcommal said...

I just said I wasn't planning on caucusing for Paul. And this wasn't a caucus, of course, it was a "whistle stop" (the campaign's term, and quite apt).

Knox: You know, I'd forgotten about the hairpiece thing until you mentioned it. In person, it looked natural--at least enough so that I didn't think "hairpiece." (And by the way, he really is a nice-looking man, with a more easygoing manner than at least I'd noticed when seeing him on television. Seemed quite real and unselfconscious, actually, from where I stood. Pleasant.)

wildswan said...

The Tea Party Republicans have a great "farm team" Scott Walker, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Mitch Daniels etc. But most of those guys had just been elected when this election season began. So we have this horde of people saying things the Tea Party agrees with but but "not quite ready for prime time". We end up with a hack - sorry Mitt - from the old days. But he can handle himself as shown by the long struggle. Not so bad. The Dems aren't even debating the debt issues and the rest becaus Obama is the candidate. Ultimately that will be very harmful. THat what I See

rcommal said...

Ron Paul actually looked as if he was having a good time. Quite relaxed. He came off better in a number of respects than I was expecting, frankly, based on some of the debates and television appearances, and the fact that all of these people are on brutal schedules and must be tired.

knox said...

Hi SteveR! Glad to see you're still around as well.

knox said...

reader, I actually did an image search on his hair. LOL. In some photos it looks very wiggy, and in others totally real.

rcommal said...

Knox: Perhaps he has both first team and farm team pieces! Who knows? ; )

rhhardin said...

Having spent much of 2011 writing incessantly about the Republican presidential nominating contest, I’m simultaneously relieved and saddened by the impending end of the “invisible primary” and the beginning, with next Tuesday’s Iowa caucuses, of the actual voting.

Beware the word count quota.

Marilee said...

BTW. Wisconsin has a killer marching band..are you watching??

Dust Bunny Queen said...

The system can be gamed -- mostly by knowing the rules and having people in place to take advantage of the rules -- but I don't think there's been evidence of cheating.


Ah... I see. Gaming the system and taking advantage of the process to disadvantage other people to make sure that the results are what you want them to be instead of what they are .....is not cheating.

I guess not. Do you apply the same rules to the tax system?

So if the wealthy are able to game the system by knowing the rules, being able to hire people (like myself when I was in business) to take advantage of the rules and thereby pay much less in income taxes than they otherwise would....you are cool with that?

Just curious.

LOL @ reader/rcommal... ..Girlfriend?

My first thought at your somewhat atypical response to my post was...Ron Paul.

Whitey Sepulchre said...

"Apparently you can do anything and not be held accountable."

Meteorologists.

Ann Althouse said...

Carnifex said... "I'm calling bullshit on the professor. ... Okay professor, since you're NOT a political blog..."

I'm not a legal hack either.

I do law, but not the way you're demanding to see it, which is totally naive.

Patrick said...

Isn't Iowa the most educated state in America? One of the few states that jokes about Nebraskans, 10000 lakers, and badgers, yet travels by drunken bus to packers, vikings, and husker games? Iowa is a state of mind. If you believe in it it is there.

But time to start rotating the primary system? One in each region Jan to Jun.

Known Unknown said...

No Rose Bowl live blog?

You could talk about the Oregon uniforms.

And helmets.

rcommal said...

was...Ron Paul.

That was a truly excellent riposte, DBQ. Touche!

(But I'm still not caucusing for Ron Paul.)

rcommal said...

But time to start rotating the primary system? One in each region Jan to Jun.

I would support something along these lines, but having watched a series of meetings, or discussions, or whatever of the two major parties on C-Span about changing the way the primary season works several years back now, I expend very little hope, both now and for some time now, that this will happen. So it goes.

--

Deborah (I think): I did take pictures and snippets of video, but I don't maintain anything anymore on which to post them. I don't know that they'd be all that exciting anyway.

John Stodder said...

So people are still "calling bullshit?" Hmm. Hoped that self-important little web spasm had subsided during 2011. Never heard that once in prison.

Peter Hoh said...

DBQ, I don't mean to be rude, but are you clear about how the Iowa caucus works? Rounding up groups of supporters is what happens with the Ames Straw Poll, not the caucus.

Getting out the vote is an important part of any campaign -- whether it's a caucus, a primary, or the general election. Sure, there's a line between what's fair and what's cheating when it comes to GOTV operations, but GOTV is not in and of itself a kind of cheating.

There are particular things about working the Iowa caucus, but I'm no expert. It's not like the rules are secret. Either a campaign makes an effort to learn the rules and work within them, or it doesn't.

In 2008, Obama's team was well-prepared for the Iowa caucus. Clinton's team was not. That doesn't mean that Obama cheated.

a psychiatrist who learned from veterans said...

"I'm not really a political blogger." It's like you do lower windows but no upper small panes usually?

Carter won in Iowa. Is that when they started this thing? Is this the Archer Daniel Midland Memorial caucus? I guess this thing determines Iowa delegates. Rove said that Romney could win after a defeat in Iowa, this was when Gingrich was surging, because it was on to New Hampshire and it struck me. The early New Hampshire primary is the New England Republican consensus vetting process.

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@MikeR

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Carnifex said...

@ Althouse

Never said I was a sophisticate :-)

Wouldn't want to be one. I find sophisticates boring in their grey views of the world.

In fact as I've stated before, I am a very simple guy.

I think it either disingenuous, or naive, for a law professor to teach law without any consideration to laws as regards to the Constitution.

Not knowing, are you considered an agent for the court system? Forsworn to uphold the Law? And do you teach your kids ethics?

I find it hard to reconcile a person that teaches law, and teaching is a calling, but neglects the impact currentlaw has on the Constitution. Which I consider one of the primary problems with todays political class. And unfortunately, too many of our politicians are lawyers.

Is the Constitution a negative document like our President holds forth? Constraining him from doing all the good he would like to do for me?

As for Alex? I just love internet tough guys-lol

Dust Bunny Queen said...

I don't mean to be rude, but are you clear about how the Iowa caucus works? Rounding up groups of supporters is what happens with the Ames Straw Poll, not the caucus.

@ Peter. I assume the Iowa Caucus works like all other caucuses?

Groups of supporters show up in their various precincts or counties and they lobby for their particular candidates and select the delegates for the convention.

If one group packs the house, brings in supporters by the bus load or in the case of Obama's supporters keeps others from entering the area by intimidation or by deception.

So when one small group of people come together and are slanted by the above methods, the delegates for the rest of the population who couldn't physically get to the show (the caucus event) have their delegates chosen for them by a small group of fanatic supporters of a candidate that may not be representative of the entire population of the political party.

Isn't that how it works?

a psychiatrist who learned from veterans said...

@ DBQ
"in the case of Obama's supporters keeps others from entering the area by intimidation or by deception."

Never heard that!

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ psychiartist

Google it. Many instances. MANY
Obama literally stole the primary from Hillary.

Read the whole thing.

"The poll workers at the Iowa Caucus I attended in Dubuque in 2008 were all Obama operatives; I have no idea how the Obama campaign achieved this, but every single person working the Dubuque Caucus was emblazoned with that creepy Obama ’08 logo that looked like the all-seeing “Eye of Sauron” (or, Soros, come to think of it). The Obama poll workers disenfranchised many Hillary voters at the Caucus by running a scam at the Caucus check-in table: elderly voters, who were more inclined to vote for Hillary than Obama, were told they were at the wrong Caucus location when they tried to check-in. I witnessed this firsthand and saw these Obama operatives sending many elderly people away from the tables, confused, not knowing what to do since “the woman running the Caucus said I’m in the wrong place”.

Hillary volunteers were driving many elderly people to the Caucus location that night, and I made sure the people we brought to Caucus were indeed allowed to vote — despite the woman wearing Obama gear who sat behind the check-in table and tried to insist these older voters were “in the wrong Caucus” location. Magically, when I demanded she check her registration book again, she found these people’s names (right where they should be) and they were allowed into the Caucus room. If I hadn’t been there, these people would have been sent back out into the cold after being told they had to caucus at a site on the other side of town.

The scam the Obama operatives were pulling was this: send as many elderly people on wild goose chases as possible by directing them to a caucus site on the other side of town. The Obama supporters running the Dubuque Caucus location quite rightly believed that the vast majority of these old people would just go home, confused that they were in “the wrong place”.


Read more http://hillbuzz.org/what-its-like-to-attend-a-caucus-in-iowa-66480

You think it is going to be any better in the next general election with Holder actively trying to keep people from preventing election fraud?

Peter Hoh said...

DBQ, like the other guy, these are stories that I had not read before. FWIW, I agree that this counts as cheating.